Tips and tricks - UHU glue.

Polyethylene

Accuracy

Tips and tricks - Adhesives follow-up.

PC-11 epoxy.

As quoted by the manufacturer:PC-11® thrives in wet environments. It is resistant to water whether it is fresh or salt. Ample open time allows tooling or positioning in order to tackle larger and challenging jobs. When mixed, the epoxy, part A (white) and the hardener part B (lt. blue) react to form a bond of tremendous strength and flexibility. The PC-11® formulation is slow curing, but slow can be a good thing especially for large tasks.

PC-11® is  a thick paste. Thick is good if you need to work vertically or want to hold an object in place. How thick? Not quite as thick as peanut butter. Its advantage for modellers is that it won't run like liquid types. Its disadvantage is that it will stick to your mixing stick or applicator, and tends to leave spikes of glue (same as you get with Goop). The best way to get a smooth glue surface is to press polyethylene plastic (the stuff Ziploc bags are made from), over the glued joint. After it has set the plastic can be pulled off cleanly.

PC-11 is available from Home Hardware.

Inexpensive Clamps.

Clothes pins are inexpensive and plentiful and also make good additional clamps for holding large surfaces in position for gluing when you may not have as many clamping devices as you would like.

​​Here is the scratchbuilding process that Peter uses for all of his boats. 

​A  standard 1/8" inside diameter collar is soldered to a 1/8" thick  brass rudder post. Brass rods 1/16" diameter are inserted into drilled holes and soldered to the 1/8" brass rudder post then slots are cut in the wood rudder to receive them. The space around the 1/16" rods is epoxy glued and filled. The leading edge of the rudder is epoxy glued to the shaft - on larger rudders it receives rods as well. Several coats of Z Poxy finishing resin finish it off.
I use the heavy duty Dubro E/Z connectors cat. no. 489 for the rudder and servo arm connections.


The "Scratchuilding Rudders" article which appeared in the March and April 2014 club newsletter has been updated and can be viewed by clicking on the button below.

Member's tip from Harry: Do you need to make a template of the shape of a hull? Maybe you need the external shape to cut out a support for display, or the internal shape to add a frame to stiffen the hull? Press a length of solder wire onto the hull in the location required. Carefully transfer it to a piece of cardboard and tape it down in a couple of spots to ensure it doesn’t move. Trace it using a pencil, remembering which edge was pressed onto the hull. and cut out.

Bilge keels are the strips that stick out from the turn of the bilge on most vessels, and are provided to reduce rolling. Here are some suggestions for fitting bilge keels to a scale model.

1.  If you have enough material in the hull wall, cut a slot with a Dremel tool and glue the strips into the slot.
2.  Use a length of styrene angle. Glue one edge flat onto the hull, towards the centre underneath. The glued face will not normally be noticeable, but if preferred it can be cut back at the end at a slight angle to make it less so. The angle is flexible enough to follow the curve of most hulls.

3.  Put nails into the hull along the line where the bilge keel will go. (Model railway track pins are good for this, with the head cut off.) Use epoxy glue to fasten the keel material to the pins and to the hull.

Bending planks


Rowen writes: It was suggested to me some while ago that using this adhesive simplified laying deck planks.

          The glue is squeezed and spread over the area to be decked. The planking is then laid onto the glue and moved into place. Excess glue is squeezed out between the planks. This should be left to dry. Once dried it can be rubbed off easily with your fingertip. In practice I found this is not quite as easy as suggested, but it does work. 
          The section of fore deck on my current project, an RAF Rescue and Target Towing Launch(RTTL), shows the finished result (not surface treated yet). The lengthwise joints are all the gaps between the strips. The strip ends are being inked in. The rubbing strip around the deck is mahogany and the planks basswood strips.


It's unlikely that you'll find UHU glue in local stores but it can be found on Amazon and ebay, of course. The glue sticks are not the same as the liquid glue in tubes.

Fibreglassing

Use silicone instead of epoxy.

From Rowen:  The more ships I build the more I appreciate that absolute accuracy is worth the extra effort. I use steel rules, protractors dividers and laser pointers to ensure models are accurate and symmetrical. Not only do they look better but finishing does not require any odd shapes to adjust for inaccurate construction.

Member's tip from Rowen: Bending strips. Using 1/2" (or similar) plastic plumbing tubing, capped at one end, make a reservoir into which ammonia can be poured. Slide the wood strip into the tube and allow it to soak. Then remove and bend to shape whilst it is still saturated. 

On drying out it should retain the bend. 

Have also thought the plastic tube, containing the strip, could be bent into shape and then drained.  The strip would then dry out retaining the bend.

Working with Styrene

Using CA glue 

Cleaning your models

Making a hull template

Building Tips - Hull and superstructure

Deluxe Materials Exe-Kote

​As quoted by the manufacturer: Eze-Kote is a 1-part water based foam-safe, low odour, resin alternative to epoxy. Brush onto balsa and light glass cloth to create a tough, ding and fuel resistant film that can be sanded easily and painted after 20-30 mins.

This product has the advantage that, because it's a one part product, any of it unused after an application can be poured back into the bottle for later use. Its disadvantage is that, because it's water-based, shipping during freezing weather may affect it.

It is stocked in Canada by Great Hobbies.


If you have not read the Model Boats magazine article about Peter's building of the "Dampschiff" steam-powered launch, which is on this site, you will not have seen his way of building a hull, as follows.

         Unlike most boat model makers I prefer to use a similar method used by model air plane builders to create half frame sections glued to a center frame (including keel). The keel / frame section is preferably cut from one piece of wood but sometimes made from two glued with an angled joint. This centre keel frame is lightly nailed to a perfectly flat plywood base covered with waxed paper to eliminate accidental gluing to same. A 1/8” square gunwale stringer is glued to the top of each frame ensuring perfect 90 degree frame fit to keel frame. To enable easier bending these strips can be split and glued in two pieces. Thick CA glue is used with a quick accelerant followed by expoxy finishing resin on each joint and left to dry overnight.
          Once this first half is complete, it is flipped over and 3 exact sized frame supports are fixed to the building board to support it and enable the same process for the other half of the hull. A full frame transom is fitted and squared off.
          This method has proven to totally eliminate any possibility of hull warping during further construction. Un-needed deck area frame material can be later removed when openings are required.
          The hull is placed upside down utilizing two of the same supports as needed to firmly support the hull for the planking process. No center support is needed due to the high strength of the framed hull. The center rib is clamped to each support to hold firmly. The building jig / platform structure is screwed on with metal angle brackets so it can be re-used for other such projects
          This technique has been successful for me in 20 large scale RC controlled model boats ranging from 12” to 96” OAL over 25 years.

Hints and tips: lots of them!

Laser cutting

Paint finishing

 Lepage All-plastics super glue.

As quoted by the manufacturer:

LePage Super Glue All Plastics is a two-part cyanoacrylate adhesive that sets in seconds and develops tremendous strength with just one drop. The activator primes hard-to-bond surfaces such as polypropylene and polyethylene. No mixing required. Simply prime and glue. Super Glue All Plastics dries clear and sets without clamping. It is resistant to water, most chemicals and freezing temperatures. Bonds Difficult to Bond Plastics such as Polyethylene, Polypropylene and PTFE/Teflon®

Some 3D-printed plastics are hard to glue. This will glue to at least one type.

Other uses include, for example, bonding a 4-slot and 1-slot battery holder together to create a single-piece 5 battery holder.

All-plastics is available from Home Depot and others. 

​​Scratchbuilding a rudder.

From Roy: I have so far fibre-glassed the hulls of 4 models, and despite the verbal and written advice I've received, none of them has turned out as well as expected. All have required lots of sanding and redoing, simply to get them to the state that they were acceptable. More recently I came across this video on Youtube by a modeller named Greg Hahn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujk-wBQDUSk.So I tried his technique recently and have been really happy with the result.  There is lots of advice on the web not to dilute epoxy but, so far, I've not noticed any adverse consequences.

Methyl Methacrylate glue.

This type was recommended by a waterjet manufacturer for glueing it into a model boat. It is a two-part glue, and its advantage is that it will glue almost anything, including joining two metals instead of welding.

It has a couple of disadvantages. One is that it stinks, it really has to be used outdoors. Another is that it seems to be impossible to find in stores and has to be purchased via Ebay or otherwise on the internet.

​It hardens within minutes.

From Roy: Polyethylene is a plastic that consumer-grade glues won't stick to. it's used to make container lids, such as for Pringles, and margarine tubs. The lids are good for mixing epoxy, or for placing a small quantity of CA glue.

It also used in flexible sheet form for plastic bags, Ziploc bags are a good example. So it's a good material to use as a barrier in locations where you don't want glue to get to.

I have also used it to repair a damaged wall, such as on a bulwark. I have mixed epoxy and applied it to the damaged area, then on each side placed a piece of Ziploc bag and a piece of styrene (anything flat will do), and clamped the area to squeeze the epoxy down to the thickness required. Once set, the clamp and Ziploc can be removed, and the epoxy trimmed to size and shape.

Hints and tips - bending plywood.

Pictures and text by Paul.

April 2020

From Paul: I made the terrible mistake of telling my wife that I would take over the house cleaning when I retired.  It's been ten years now and, yes, I do all the cleaning.
When it comes to cleaning my displayed boats (there are eight or so on display in the house) I use a very soft paintbrush to loosen dust while I hold the tube of the vacuum about six inches away.  This will take the disturbed dust away while leaving the important bits where they are.

Rowen writes: I have often tried to heat relieve strains in plywood, once glued and clamped in place, by gentle heating with a heat gun. I have never been sure just how well it works, but as no parts have sprung apart I have assumed it is fine. I am building a pilot boat model that has a pronounced rounded bow to support a substantial rubber buffer. I was wondering how to do this as I was reluctant to try the usual wood block sanded to shape approach. 
I decided to cut a length of thin plywood (1/16") to the same depth as the inwale and held this in a steel tube bender and applied gentle heat. Lo and behold the ply gradually relaxed and took up the shape of the bender.
When cooled the wood was released and most of the shape is retained. It was then cut to length and glued to the frames and bow support, where it fits nicely.

Member's tip from Paul: Working with cyanoacrylate (CA) is at least difficult and at worst dangerous. Using less is almost always better and I do that by never dispensing the glue directly. Whenever possible I squeeze a couple of drops onto a plastic surface (think lid from a yogurt container) and use a straight pin to apply the glue to the item being glued. This works especially well with locking knots in small lines

Fitting bilge keels


From Paul: I like to have a VERY smooth finish on the hulls I sail.  While this is mostly so I can stay ahead of Harry in the races I also like the look and feel of a very shiny hull.
All it takes is patience and a little elbow grease.  Once you have a reasonably smooth hull (whether it is wood, plastic or Fiberglas) the next step is to start wet sanding.  If you go to one of the Wood Shows you can get a complete range of wet sandpapers at a very good price.  Each sheet will go a long way since it can be washed and dried and reused many times.  I start with 400 grit and work up through 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000 and 2500 - yes there is 2500!  In fact you can get 60,000 but it is about as rough as Charmin'.  Dip the sandpaper in water with a tiny drop of dish-washing liquid, it will make the job easier.  Sand in the same direction and just take a couple of minutes for each grade of paper.  Once you have finished then apply several coats of a good wax such as Maguires auto wax.  This process can be done directly on styrene or ABS hulls or after painting.  If you are going to sand after painting then make sure you have several coats of well dried paint and be prepared to paint again if you sand right through it.  It's worth the effort!

Member's tip from Steve M: If you have to secure something inside the hull of your boat, say a battery box, use silicone instead of epoxy. The silicone will hold it firmly, but it will be possible to remove it if adjustments are needed.

Aligning motor and prop shaft.

Build your hull Peter's model aircraft way.

Confederation Marine Modellers

If you have a motor shaft of 1/8" diameter, and a propeller shaft of 4 mm diameter (a common combination) you can quickly make a tool to help align the two. You need two short lengths of 5/32" and 3/16" outside diameter brass or aluminum tube. With the motor placed in its correct fore-and-aft position, measure the distance from the end of the motor casing to the inner end of the prop shaft, and cut the tubes to this length.

To use the tool, insert one tube into the other, and the pair onto the motor shaft. Place the motor into position and then adjust its position up-and-down and side-to-side so that you can easily slide the 3/16" tube off the other tube and onto the prop shaft. When you can do this the motor is correctly aligned to the shaft.

You've probably seen the tip about reversing clothes pins to turn them into clamps. How about the one that says you cut a notch in the end and use them to hold planks onto the frames until the glue dries?


This is one many "gems" in a series of videos that Dale found on the internet.  They are all produced by a modeller by the name of Gary Brinker and can be found on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAz67wDMZI


          Phil Davis gave us a very interesting presentation on laser cutting of plywood and plastics.  Many of us are aware of the process or at least the final product as most, if not all, new model kits include a sheet or two of parts laser cut out of plywood just waiting for us to punch them out and get to work putting them together.  The parts are always very accurately cut and the edges rarely even need a sanding.
          The exciting thing is that Phil explained we have, in Burlington, the facility to design and cut parts ourselves.  This facility, the Idea Works Studio, is part of the Burlington Central Library on New Street and is available to anyone with a Burlington Library card.  At the Studio you can cut Mylar, plywood (1/8" and 1/4") and some plastics.  
So, How do I get started? you might ask.  It seems that it is quite easy.  First you get your library card.  If you live or work in Burlington it is free.  If you have a Hamilton Library card then it appears that will work too (check to be sure).  If you live outside the area an annual Burlington Library card is available for $57.
          Once you have your card then you are required to take a 2 hour course in operating the equipment.  There is a charge of $25 for this course. The studio is available on a first come, first served basis three times a week.  Then you download free design software such as Inkscape to design your parts - Phil says it is easy to use - and start designing.  Once your parts are designed you save them to a memory stick and head off to the studio.  There is a small charge for the actual machine time but Phil says it is insignificant. Staff members are there to assist and before you know it you are heading home with the beginnings of you new boat!
          These photos show some of the parts Phil has cut at the Idea Works Studio.


Editor's note: ​ Hamilton Central Library has its "Makerspace" which has available four 3D printers as well as a vinyl printer and a vinyl cutter. Their website states that laser cutters and CNC machines will be coming in the future.

Other local libraries probably also have similar facilities.

Materials:
Sheet styrene in differing thicknesses: 0.10”, 0.20”, 0.30”, 0.40”, 0.60”, 0.80”.
Evergreen structural styrene strips, rods, tubes, etc.
Steel rulers with cork backing, sharp knives (box, Xacto)
‘OLFA’ Cutting Mat.
Square, micrometer, pencils, erasers.
Sandpaper, scrapers.
Square blocks of wood or metal to help brace pieces while the glue is setting.
Liquid styrene cement (various types), CA, contact cement, 2 part epoxy cement.

General Do’s and Don’ts:

  • Always use a well-lit work area, at a comfortable height, whether sitting or standing. Protect your work surface from sharp tools using a large OLFA Cutting Mat, or a layer of newspaper, cardboard or even old sheets.
  • Do always plan your cuts well in order to minimize the need to sand. Styrene generally cuts as glass, by scoring and snapping. The thicker the styrene, the more passes with your cutting tool are needed for a clean break.
  • The thicker the styrene you are working with, the more difficult and time-consuming the sanding will be if it is needed to correct an oversize cut. Many times it is quicker and easier to shave down an oversize cut, even after assembly.
  • Do make sure that you have sanded or scraped off the ridge-line on the edge of any new cut.
  • For ships models, I tend to use 0.040” to 0.060” for decks, or large areas of superstructure. The stiffness of the thicker gauge styrene will usually minimize the need for internal bracing.
  • For scale superstructures I use 0.020” to 0.030” gauge styrene and even thinner if I wish to preserve a degree of scale fidelity. Remember, a piece of 0.020” styrene is 2” thick in 1/8” scale (1/96th) or 1” thick in 1/48th scale (1/4” scale).
  • Build up your superstructure like a house: walls, then a ‘roof’ on top, then more walls if required, with another ‘roof’ if called for.
  • Bracing from the inside always helps in larger structures, especially with the thinner gauge styrene. Smaller structures rarely need internal bracing, especially of they in turn are being glued to a deck or larger piece of superstructure. Bracing doesn’t have to be permanent. Ie a 2 pc wheelhouse ‘roof’ using an inner panel glued to the underside of the actual ‘roof’ piece. The inner piece is cut to the inner dimensions of the wheelhouse, but glued to the underside of the over-hanging roof, and not the inside of the wheelhouse.
  • When using liquid cement, remember that you are in a sense welding the two pieces together, as the glue softens the styrene and causes the material of the two pieces at the glue joint to mix together, making for a very strong joint once set.
  • Model Master liquid glue sets up quick. Small pieces can be set in 15 seconds, enough to handle, and very firm in 30-60 seconds. Larger glue joints will take a few moments to set up.
  • Model Master glue can have a degree of a ‘wicking’ action similar to CA. Use enough liquid cement to tack the joint together; let it set; run a slight bead of liquid cement along the joint on the inside where it won’t be noticed. Come back to it in a few moments, and you will see that the bead has been absorbed into the joint very nicely.
  • If you are using CA glue to fasten small pieces of styrene together (which it is great for), be advised that CA glue make thin gauge styrene (0.005” or 0.010”) brittle and the styrene may crack or break into pieces. The same holds true if you are CA gluing small pieces of styrene to resin parts or cast metal parts.
  • You can bend thin pieces of styrene to a curved shape, but it will tend to revert back to its original shape. ‘Over bending’ will help, or a careful application of heat from a hair dryer or a heat gun, or even hot water. Too much heat will cause the styrene to deform and you won’t be able to restore the original shape.


Material Sources for sheet styrene:

  • Laird Plastics Brampton 905-595-4800
  • P & A Plastics, Hamilton 905-547-1675
  • Evergreen strip styrene can be obtained at many hobby stores (not including SkyCraft).
  • Credit Valley Railway store at Winston Churchill Blvd and #407 has a great choice of products as well as a lot of other useful items.
  • Great Hobbies have a store close to them. I understand they have moved but are still close by. Not sure of their stock.
  • Hobby Hobby in Streetsville are close by as well. A great place to shop, but I don’t believe they carry styrene.